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Re: Introduce yourself! What canceled sitcom best describes your life?

Marchall Erikson's story line in How I met Your Mother. Been forever with the same girl + I share the same environmental worries and worry about the rapidly closing window of opportunities to tackle global issues.

What does Vaporwave mean to you?

I discovered vaporwave the moment I as an environmentalist gave up on the " future that was promised". I didn't know of it when I first felt machintosh Plus - リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー, but Fisher's stolen futures argument is what made the emotional click for me. Vaporwave is a glorious critique / critical glorification of the time I grew up in. It reminds me of the naive hope we all had on the brink of a new millennium, at the end of history. A future full of possibilities.
Vaporwave helps me understand and emotionally reconnect with that time.
On the other hand I'm here for the wonderfully fresh music. not since I first discovered the mashup community in the early 00's and, to a lesser extent, since my girlfriend discovered Nightcore I have been pleasantly surprised by the newness of music. This is what it must feel like to be around when rock'n'roll was invented.

What subgenres are you most into?

the classics get regular play (eco virtual, saint pepsi, 2814, Floral Shoppe, etc). Currently I'm into whatever CatsystemCorp (猫 シ Corp.) puts out.
recently got some compilations with "summer vapors" of 2018 which were promising.
I don't listen to vaporwave exclusively (well, at least 80% is vaporwave these days though!). If there is one thing I'd like to see vaporified (vaporwaved? vaporred?) it is Big Beat, a short-lived genre from the late 90's. Think Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim, propellerheads, the wiseguys, the entire matrix soundtrack, the tomb raider movie soundtrack, etc. If there are already vaporwave releases with Big Beats, please let me know!

How did you find out about this place?

the Vaporwave FB group.

What do you do for fun?

play boardgames (there is an emerging subculture of fantastic, well-developed games on par with the video-game industry, absolutely worthwhile to check out if you detested Monopoly as a kid like I did :) )

July 15, 2018, 05:40:17 AM
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Re: So where do you guys live... The Netherlands :)
July 17, 2018, 02:24:07 AM
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Re: Climatewave/Weathersoft I was about to mention that one! The first is still the best IMO. The Climatewave / Weathersoft is strong with this one too: https://alternateskies.bandcamp.com

July 17, 2018, 02:32:35 AM
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Re: Alex Jones' Infowars has been BANNED everywhere, is this the end? It is a bit of a conflicting issue for me. i find myself thinking "good riddance, infowars was horrible" AND "fuck censorship, this sets a dangerous precedent for silencing legitimate voices of discontent" and thirdly: can they now finally make 45 STFU on twitter? his shit is often viler and more hateful than Alex's. 
August 09, 2018, 06:06:48 AM
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Re: Improvement & Feedback Thread I know its aesthetic and all, but the font is reaaaaaly small.

I'm not sure if it exists but a button to make text spaced l i k e  t h i s would be a perfect addition right next to bold italic and undercore.

overall I'm diggin it the way it is man, good work!

September 02, 2018, 04:41:38 AM
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Re: About Current Events & Philosophy @Colderisland: totally! Many Vaporwave artists critique late-capitalism in their work, whether intentional or not. What I find beautiful is the ambivalence in this critique. The capitalist practices and excesses are glorified (mallsoft, internet club, etc) in such a ridiculous over-exaggeration that its praise becomes Ironic and satirical.
When I listen to vaporwave I both fondly remember the optimism of the pre-9/11 era I grew up in and have the unsettling feeling of how pretty much all of that turned out to be a lie.
The chopped and screwed nature of the art (not sure if I'd classify vaporwave as a music genre, I prefer to label it art as the aesthetic is such a large part of it) toghether with the reverb and worn-out tape sound are part of the critique on capitalism's story of progress. It is both satirizing the fake authenticity and showing the cracks in the retro-futurist sounds. In my opinion, good Vaporwave sounds as if it is about to collapse under its own weight.

September 16, 2018, 06:02:39 AM
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Re: Article: Vaporwave, Dadaism, and the New Age of Anxiety I love reading about vaporwave and this is one of the more thoughtful pieces on the genre. Is there a place on the interwebs that features reviews, opinion pieces and long-reads on Vaporwave? The only thing remotely close to this is an online magazine that has produced a one-off issue which was very nice.
September 17, 2018, 04:32:02 AM
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Re: CONSUMERISM IN VAPORWAVE I'd say the connection between vaporwave and consumerism is ambivalence. vaporwave is BOTH a nonstalgic glorification of excessive 90's consumer culture AND a (marxist) critique of late capitalism. I see why your teacher changed the theme as it is so strongly connected!
some other people wrote school essays about vaporwave and posted em here on the forum. I suggest you have a look cause there is some great stuff written about vaporwave.

another interesting aspect of today's vaporwave scene is the whole 12" and casette collector culture that has emerged. how did a anti-capitalist internetculture that was about giving screwed and stolen records away for free on bandcamp become so obsessed with paying 100,- for a rare vinyl? Do VW fans collect "ironically"? Has capitalism found its way to co-opt another anti-capitalist culture?

November 05, 2018, 12:08:57 AM
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Re: What are your favourite sample sources? Yes! Samples are such an integral part to vaporwave and I think we should have a conversation about them. There are two answers I'd like to give you, a personal and a cultural.
First the personal, I was born in 88 and I come to Vaporwave from a nonstalgic perspective. There are these hazy memories of growing up in the 90's I just can't shake. audio back then had such a distinctively digital /DX7 sound to it. I don't find new samples, I rediscover what I might have heard back then. Ideas for where to look often come to me when I'm not making music (on the bike, when I wake up, in the shower, etc). Another source I use heavily is a CD collection I've built up over the years by visiting flea markets and record shop clearance sales.
Secondly the cultural: among many, many things Vaporwave is a plunderphonic music genre (you'll not gonna get a definition of Vaporwave out of me, I don't believe it is possible to pin down the art movement that is vaporwave into a single definition). This means that samples are at the heart of the genre. Or put more bluntly: Vaporwave is built upon a pile of stolen shit. Conceptually this makes perfect sense as the whole concept of property didn't really apply to music in the era Vaporwave is alluding to. Vaporwave continues in the mindset of napster, bootleg cassette's and those twilight CD-ROMs with pirated software your cousin lended to you. When I hear Lisafrank420, I not only hear Diana Ross, I hear Vektroid re-appropriating her own culture in the most post-modern way. What is music other than ideas translated to a bunch of soundwaves? No wonder most vaporwave artists use a pay-as-you-feel model on bandcamp. Music should be available for all as you are entitled to it just as much as anyone else does.
This brings me to the future of vaporwave: as an art movement with distinctive marxist and anti-modernist messages (often expressed as satirical through the over-glorification of late capitalism) we often become what we try to critique. The whole collectors culture of limited cassette runs and special vinyl releases has become a serious business instead of an overly (and openly) ironic one. I think it is in this context we need to discuss the fact that our man with an impeccable taste in samples, 猫 シ Corp. has decided to stop using samples in his productions from now on. I am very conflicted on this. On one hand he is the great innovator of the genre and has successfully explored the many directions in which vaporwave can be taken, but on the other I fear this is taking away something essential without artistic justification. I don't believe that not using samples makes you more of a "Real Artist" or that giving in to the cultural fencing of the copyright lobby is the responsible thing to do as a leader in the vaporwave community.
 

November 24, 2018, 01:10:57 PM
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Re: Bad resuts of modern capitalism I think capitalism as a model has outlived its usefulness and its problems (or as marx would say: internal contradictions) far outweigh its benefits. a shortlist of problems primarily caused by capitalism:
- world hunger. We produce enough food to feed every person on earth. The problem is that capitalism is in charge of distribution. It is under capitalism often more profitable to throw away good food than to prevent people from starving.
- homelessness. same argument. There are enough houses to provide everyone with a roof above their heads.
- Anthropocenic Climate Change. the continuous push for increased consumption and productivity is killing our planet in many horrific ways. This violence is normalised and celebrated through capitalism.


November 28, 2018, 03:46:46 AM
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